Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-11-08 WT Study (CRIES)

by blondie in

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" (ps.

but like david, we can be comforted in knowing that jehovah fully understands our distresses.-ps.34:15.. ot example--david.

ot example--solomon.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Thanks Blondie ! This article is truly worthy of the Kool-Aid edition, destined only for the eyes of the R&F, and away from any thoughtful examination.

Let's carefully reconsider the OT example in para 13. Here, this event in the life of David is truly a stupid choice. Who was David's enemy in this example? Was it some wicked, evil, child-burning pagan sent as an agent of the Devil? Why no, not at all ! This enemy of David was none other than "the anointed of Jehovah," King Saul ! So, here we have an example of Jehovah's beloved servant David fleeing from Jehovah's beloved, anointed King Saul ! So, Jehovah has to protect one of his servants from another one of his servants? Hey, who was in charge around there?

And, which wife helped him escape? Why, it was Saul's daughter Michal, who later got mixed up with another dude, but went back to David, then didn't love David, so David ignored her. While David's relationship with Michal was rocky, David always loved, and hugged, and kissed her brother Jonathan! Wow, what a duo! But Jonathan got killed, David wept a lot, and then he boinked a married woman, killed her husband, etc. So Jehovah punished David by killing innocent people and causing domestic problems that caused fighting and death.

Truly an inspiring example of Jehovah helping his servants, eh? Who needs Satan, when you have Saul, Michal, David, and other OT servants of Jehovah like that?

"Oh Jehovah, protect me from those evil people that serve... um... YOU !!"

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Jehovah's Witnesses are CASTING A GIANT SHADOW

by Terry in

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folks are about as happy as they decide to be.. looking on the bright side of life gives you more of a foothold when things go awry.

nurturing hope builds a foundation for you which enables you to save for tomorrow and build toward the future and hang on when things get tough.. people dig their own graves when they become pessimists.

"why bother" replaces "that's worth a try!".

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

No celebrations of birth, thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, anniversaries are allowed because happiness is not for them!
Nothing that makes life worth living, celebrating or improving can be a part of their daily routines.

... and they look forward to this FOREVER ! ! ! ????

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Public Talk & Bookstudy Changes - the real reason

by bud2114 in

i havn't been able to keep up with all the discussion in this forum as to why the gb has suddenly decided to implement these changes and perhaps someone has mentioned this already, but to me the most obvious reason has nothing to do with control, or money.

it has everything to do with the serious shortage of qualified brothers who can (or who are willing to) be used.

i have been involved in the organzation for 40 yrs and i have never seen the level of apathy and disillusionment among those serving in some capacity in this organization.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Right on, Bud !

Burnout runs high among the unpaid clergy. From the time that they made the change from 'conductor' to "Congregation Book Study Overseer", I thought the whole idea was some fantasy to fix every problem in the organization. It was designed as if guys had unlimited time and energy to push the bOrgs agenda on each and every publisher. Many avoided that assignment. Any publisher not doing well... beat up their CBSO.

Several years ago while I was still in Bethhell, it was noted that in the US there was a serious shortage of ministerial servants. Very few were 'reaching out' for privileges. In many cases, it appeared to be almost deliberate that they would try to keep short on time or miss meetings.

Some here have noted an increase of elders locally, others have noted a loss of elders. Overall, I see a drop in quantity and quality. In my experience though, it seems that some areas have more elders/servants for two reasons: Brothers purposely move to where the need isn't so great. Brothers are more willing to 'reach out' in congregations where the demands are less.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-04-08 WT Study (MARRIAGE)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 05-04-08 wt study (march 15, 2008, pages 7-11 )(joy/marriage).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I listened carefully in the 80s to the counsel to remain single and pursue spiritual goals because the end was so close. In fact, the generation of 1914 was in their last years, so the preaching and separating of the sheep and goats was much more urgent than education, career, marriage, family, financial planning, etc.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. So now, here I am at JWD. From what I've seen in the congregation, I'm better off single... than unhappily married to a JW.

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Hilarious PRINCE VIDEO

by V in

just click here.... prince goes knocking.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Hahahahahaha !

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SHUT UP AND KNOCK IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Warlock in

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according to a close relative of mine, you were not supposed to reveal the new book study arrangement to anyone.

it was to be revealed at the k.h., and only there!!!!.

secondly, there is to be no speculation as to what this new arangement means.........so............. no speculating..............please!!!!!!!.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

All right, all right. As of right now, I'll stop spilling the beans to everyone I know about the divine amalgamation of the book/bible study arrangement announcement... that they just announced.

So, uh, what is the next announcement that we shouldn't speculate about?

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Anyone else called an apostate for knowing the new info early?

by bronzefist in

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i was called an apostate because i knew the "new arrangement" before it was announced.

this is so funny because this change directly affects how the local elders were screwing me over.

pm me if you're interested in details.. brzfst.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Of course I wasn't called an apostate.

Jesus revealed this to me secretly in advance as proof that I'm anointed.

B the X... and soon to me another Mrs. Jesus Christ in heavenly glory ... NOT !

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HEAR the announcement...

by SpyAmI in

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just in case you slept in this morning and didn't get to the kh, here's an mp3 of the letter being read.... .

no more bookstudies (2007427_announcement.mp3): http://www.divshare.com/download/4361643-f65.

.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

"we wish to add no further burder to you"

Wow, they're finally admitting how burdensome the meetings are.

Thanks, Spy ! And Welcome !

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Has the mass exodus begun?

by kool aid man06 in

it's truly exciting to see all of the "rapid fire" changes taking place in the watchtower org.

buildings are being sold, kingdomhalls are "compressing", bethelites are being sent home, watchtower format changing to public issues and private issues, more and more judicial committee meetings being held for apostasy.

(the watchtower is dead it just hasn't fallen over yet!

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

counting inactive one? is this documented?

Us apostates sound like a pathetic, desperate bunch when we keep talking about how all the figures simply must be fudged by the WTS.

I'll try to explain the deal on monthly reports as sent from congregations to the branch. In previous years, the monthly report would go in stating the number of pubs, aux, and reg pios just for that month. For the last service year, they added a new box to report the number of "active publishers". This "active publishers" total would include pubs, aux, reg pios, and irregular publishers. Irregular publishers are those who have submitted a report during the last 6 months. Inactive are those that haven't reported in over 6 months. So, they are asking for a count including irreguler publishers, not inactive publishers. This switch in accounting would easily inflate the number of publishers, as evidenced locally. 2 years ago, Br. Hateservice reported 2 hours in September and 2 hours for March. In the total count, he would have only been 2/12 of a publisher for the year. With a new accounting method, last year Br. Hateservice reported the same activity, would have been irregular for the entire year, but would have been counted as 1 publisher for the year's total instead of a fraction of a publisher.

Have they really changed their accounting methods to include irregular publishers? I don't know for a certainty. While there was a 3% increase, I would have guessed that if they really started including the number of irregulars, it would have been an 8% increase at least. Also, the hour and placement averages show a growth rate which may indicate that there was a genuine growth in the number of publishers... or it may just mean more work done by the already existing publisher base. Are they fudging the figures? Time will tell. Any growth reported by a switch in accounting methods only lasts during one adjustment period. Future years will reveal what direction the trends are really moving.

Will there be a mass exodus? I don't know. But there's plenty of time to watch, and wait, and see.

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What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?

by Malkiel in

i've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.

right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).

barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Hey Malkiel, welcome to JWD!

What will you do when the Great Tribulation begins?

Same thing I'd do if the Easter Bunny came after me with a chainsaw. I'd wake up, go to the restroom, and swear to never eat that much ice cream before bed ever again.

Now, if you would ask, "What will Billy do if the Great Tribulation begins?" I'd be ready to stand before God and remind him of all the sacrificed I'd made based on the WTBTS false prophecy of the end coming within 'this generation' of 70-80 years after 1914. I'd remind him of the work I'd done, presumably for him, at Bethel. I would be ready to ask God why he had never answered my prayers at several specific events in my life. I remained single and childless. I obediently never went to college or took work that would interfere with meeting schedules. I spent many years in Bethel. In spite of all the good I'd done, as other JWs admitted to me, I was treated like crap. All those sacrifices I'd done willingly, I've come to regret. I'd state plainly that if it was his will to continue to treat me like crap, please just destroy me. If life as a JW, my career in Bethel, and this 'spiritual paradise' is anything like the 'God's Kingdom' that I would be privileged to survive into, there'd better be Prozac growing on the trees and white zinfandel flowing in the rivers. My family have been JWs for generations. In the 60s, also when the end was 'so very near', my parents 'rebelliously' started their family rather than sign on as missionaries. I would ask God if I should never have been born, and my parents should be getting old, without any family to care for them today.

As for the things that appear to be leading to the big A. Yes, I am very concerned about present world conditions. I've been concerned about them my whole life. Every generation before me has been very concerned about world conditions of their time as well. Things appear to be much more serious today than at previous times. However, none of those things really prove that the JWs are "the truth".

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